📢 Creators Meeting Summary – 2026 Art Direction & Payments

Host: Andy
Attendees: VZones artists & creators
Purpose: Clarify art usage, revisions, quality goals, and payment process going into 2026

🖼️ 1. Annual Art Revisions (2026 Direction)

• VZones would like to move toward yearly revisions of existing art rather than one-off items.

• This mainly applies to:

  • Basic / knick-knack items

  • Core props (containers, animals like bear/fox/fuzzie, etc.)

• Only art VZones owns the rights to can be revised.

• Original artists should revise their own work whenever possible.

• If an artist is unavailable or unwilling, a revised version may be created by VZones, but Andy stated this should be rare.

✅ Important reassurance:
Artist-created art will not be altered by others without permission.

🎨 2. VZones Original vs Artist Art

• VZones-original art (no artist code):

  • Anyone may revise or update it.

• Artist-created art:

  • Only the original artist may revise or tweak it.

• Older art without artist codes may be modernized (e.g., made paintable).

⭐ 3. Quality Over Quantity (Key 2026 Goal)

Rather than many single-use seasonal items, the aim is to focus on:

• 1 high-quality base item

• Re-released throughout the year with themed tweaks:

  • Halloween

  • Christmas

  • Easter

  • Yearly updates

Benefits:

• Better usability

• Less clutter

• More longevity

• More earning potential for artists

🎭 4. Paintability & Older Art

• Older non-paintable VZones art can be reworked to be paintable.

• This is allowed and already being done by some artists.

🧩 5. Purchased Pixel Assets

• Artists may use licensed external pixel assets (e.g., purchased sprite packs),
  provided:

  • Licensing allows it

  • The art is converted into VZones-ready, paintable items

🧾 6. Art Ownership & Legacy Work

• VZones should only use art it owns the rights to.

• Some legacy art (e.g. HM, Peach, MMC) is not owned and should not be reused.

• Polly/Pye are the authority on ownership questions.

• Artists with older work still in use should contact Polly directly.

💰 7. Payment & Invoicing (Important)

• Artists do not need to wait for sales data.

• Once art is:

  • Approved

  • Processed
    → You may invoice immediately.

• Payment is per item, not per sale.

• Some artists have not yet received the rate card.

📌 Action from Andy:
A clear rate card will be sent to all artists this week so pricing is transparent.

🎉 8. Event Art Clarification

• Event art rules caused some confusion.

• Andy’s intent is that artists should be able to:

  • Create full themed sets (clothing, accessories, seats, hair, etc.)

  • Earn from those sets

• Further clarification may be needed with Polly regarding:

  • Multi-item event sets

  • “One-sided” vs full asset event rules

✅ Key Takeaways

• Artists retain control of their work

• No silent edits to artist art

• Focus on reusable, high-quality items

• Invoice as soon as art is approved

• Rate transparency is coming

• Polly remains the final authority on ownership

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  20:06:54 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: We can only do this on art that we on the rights to
  20:06:54 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: and that we have the original art files for
  20:06:54 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: hey Emm
  20:06:54 | Juliet: hmm, not sure about that
  20:06:54 | crazy~lil~noodle: I dont wanna see someone tweak my art
  20:06:54 | Juliet: same
  20:06:54 | Juliet: I don’t think the rights give you the right to alter
  20:06:54 | Emm: taking over, my device ran into a problem and rebooted, carry on
  20:06:54 | ~*MrsM*~: well when I sold my old stuff it was so you could use it sell it as it now let it be chaged by others…
  20:06:54 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok
  20:06:54 | Juliet: it only gives you the right to that piece
  20:07:37 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Ideally the original person who created the art would make the yearly released versions.
  20:07:37 | Shadowess: i mean if it was your artwork it would be easier for you to tweak yourself as you still have the template most likely and could do a quick turn around on it
  20:07:37 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yeah exactly
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Ideally the original person who created the art would make the yearly released versions.
  20:10:29 | Shadowess: i mean if it was your artwork it would be easier for you to tweak yourself as you still have the template most likely and could do a quick turn around on it
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yeah exactly
  20:10:29 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok that would work
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: of it’s original art then anyone can do it
  20:10:29 | Juliet: so only the original artist tweak?
  20:10:29 | crazy~lil~noodle: thats the idea of the meeting, if one has an idea for a tweak on my item we could talk about and I would try to do it
  20:10:29 | Juliet: ah ok, vzones original
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: vzones original anyone do.
  20:10:29 | Juliet: with no name id with initials, correct?
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Artist tweak own
  20:10:29 | ~*MrsM*~: I didn’t sell it to have it changed by others.. unless I give the okay..
  20:10:29 | ~*MrsM*~: okay good
  20:10:29 | crazy~lil~noodle: vzones original ok, thats the old stuff you meant
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: if the artist is not available or unwilling and it’s something we want then a revised version can be created but i can’t see that being needed.
  20:10:29 | Juliet: whew, we all were gonna go bananas
  20:10:29 | Juliet: hehe
  20:10:29 | Shadowess: like the planter back there, thats an og, anyone could do it
  20:10:29 | crazy~lil~noodle: sometimes its bad enough to see strange paint code on my Art lol
  20:10:29 | Juliet: right Noodle
  20:10:29 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok yes Shadowess
  20:10:29 | Juliet: I remember your cool frog one year….
  20:10:29 | crazy~lil~noodle: oh jesus
  20:10:29 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:10:29 | Juliet: hehehe
  20:10:29 | Juliet: love ya
  20:10:29 | Juliet: hehe
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: So if you made a dress in 2025 you could issue it again in 2026 with a tweak
  20:10:29 | Shadowess: lol paint codes is a cringe topic here lol
  20:10:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: and repeat each year
  20:10:52 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok
  20:11:13 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: We would need to figure out a price structure on revised versions but it would be great to stop using key items each year
  20:11:24 | crazy~lil~noodle: lol cringe topic yes
  20:11:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: key items and basic items
  20:11:34 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: fuzzie
  20:11:34 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: bear
  20:11:39 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: fox
  20:11:44 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: container
  20:11:44 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: etc
  20:11:49 | Juliet: I agree
  20:11:54 | crazy~lil~noodle: k
  20:11:59 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: 2nd point i had……..
  20:12:35 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: excluding revision art we just talked about
  20:13:11 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: again nothing planned on how yet but i would like to see in 2026 quality over qty and the price can cover that
  20:13:47 | crazy~lil~noodle: uh huh
  20:13:57 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: So for example 1 hat or 1 dress that is high quality and can be used 20 times
  20:14:13 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: compared to 30 items which we can only use once
  20:14:33 | Mikey: agreed
  20:14:54 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: But it covers all types of items really not just clothes and thinking in mind that it could also be updated every year
  20:15:19 | crazy~lil~noodle: now who decide about the quality
  20:15:19 | Juliet: define that more, what do you mean only used once…
  20:15:24 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:15:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Yeah that is the tricky part
  20:16:00 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: An example…….
  20:16:05 | Shadowess: yeah cuz seasonal is generally not as easy to not have 30 items
  20:16:15 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:16:31 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: You could make a tshirt to fit my body
  20:16:41 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: with a pumpkin on it
  20:16:51 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: and 2026 on the back
  20:17:17 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: That’s great but it’s a one off that could be a yearly revision but it’s still a one off
  20:17:42 | Juliet: hmm, I don’t think we want to see the same things over and over though…
  20:17:42 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: So a quality item would be a tshirt that’s generic but looks and fits well
  20:17:58 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:17:58 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: That can then be released first as the top
  20:17:58 | Juliet: least I don’t, I remember being excited about what Laesea was going to put out next
  20:18:03 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Then a halloween version
  20:18:08 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: then a christmas version
  20:18:13 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: easter version
  20:18:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: etc
  20:18:44 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok the color makes it or it got tweaked from the creator
  20:18:44 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok
  20:18:59 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: So the 1 quality item can become 30 versions a year
  20:19:40 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: So this was all i had for this meeting
  20:19:45 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: so over to you guys
  20:20:01 | ~*MrsM*~: well am working on an easter Dobbie lol after the idiotic amount of xmas dobbies that I made
  20:20:11 | crazy~lil~noodle: lol
  20:20:26 | Mikey: I have 2 questions
  20:20:31 | ~*MrsM*~: but that was because I made also that amount of hats years ago ..
  20:20:47 | Mikey: 1 is the art resolution the same as old days?
  20:20:57 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:21:02 | crazy~lil~noodle: its all the same
  20:21:02 | crazy~lil~noodle: nothing changed
  20:21:28 | Mikey: 2. can the artist decide if its AW or IW art?
  20:21:33 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Full instructions at www_vzones_com/download/VZones-Art-Creation-Guide.pdf
  20:21:43 | crazy~lil~noodle: 72 DPI solution
  20:22:03 | crazy~lil~noodle: there are some wrong Items with higher solution around
  20:22:08 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Nope Mikey, Polly/Pye will decide that unless it’s free/donated art.
  20:22:14 | crazy~lil~noodle: wrong pixels on it
  20:22:14 | crazy~lil~noodle: I see that
  20:22:29 | Mikey: ok thats all i had
  20:22:55 | Shadowess: quick kinda question
  20:23:30 | Shadowess: some of the older vzones art was non paintable
  20:23:46 | Shadowess: is reworking them to make them paintable an option still
  20:23:51 | crazy~lil~noodle: ooh yeah good question
  20:23:56 | Juliet: yes, I have done that
  20:23:56 | crazy~lil~noodle: thats what I wanted to know too
  20:24:01 | Juliet: with my own
  20:24:06 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Yeah that’s fine
  20:24:12 | crazy~lil~noodle: sounds good
  20:24:12 | ~*MrsM*~: I have done that too with old stuff without artistcode
  20:24:12 | Shadowess: i was previously working on some bits from way back when and found them in a folder
  20:24:32 | Shadowess: also i have 1 more question
  20:24:53 | Shadowess: so im still in newbie mode cuz i just came back lol
  20:24:58 | crazy~lil~noodle: lol
  20:25:03 | crazy~lil~noodle: Hi Newbie <wave>
  20:25:13 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: If someone also wants to take purchased pixel art assets that look good and turn them into VZ friendly/paintable that’s also allowed
  20:25:13 | Shadowess: so i found some of my old artwork that is being sold, what is the way it works with aw and the artist
  20:25:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: I’m not sure if this saves time or takes more time for a good artist.
  20:26:20 | crazy~lil~noodle: purchased pixel art assets? you mean online art you purchased?
  20:26:50 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yeah you can buy pixel art very cheap but it’s not VZ ready
  20:26:56 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:27:01 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: craftpix_net/product/pixel-resource-icons-32×32-for-rpg/ example
  20:27:16 | crazy~lil~noodle: if that is easier <shrug> I dont know but yes I do understand what you mean
  20:27:21 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok
  20:27:37 | crazy~lil~noodle: Shadowess what do you mean?
  20:27:52 | Shadowess: like stuff that sells for gold
  20:27:57 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:28:08 | Shadowess: i have some art that i did a long time ago
  20:28:18 | Shadowess: and i saw it was being sold for gold
  20:28:38 | crazy~lil~noodle: uh huh
  20:28:43 | Shadowess: i know artists use to get a small percentage under the old way it use to be, just wasnt sure how it worked now if at all
  20:28:54 | crazy~lil~noodle: right
  20:28:54 | Shadowess: or if its just giving for the good of the world
  20:28:54 | Shadowess: if that makes sense
  20:29:09 | crazy~lil~noodle: I got it now <grin>
  20:29:30 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: The art we are using now should only be art that we own the rights to.
  20:29:30 | crazy~lil~noodle: I have no answer for it LOL
  20:29:50 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: We shouldn’t be using any art we don’t own.
  20:30:52 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: From memory we don’t own or use HM, Peach or MMC art.
  20:31:12 | Mikey: hers isn JH
  20:31:27 | Mikey: is*
  20:32:39 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Polly is the expert on the ownerships so you are best to direct questions to her on that.
  20:32:44 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: For old art anyway.
  20:32:49 | Shadowess: okies i will do ty ty
  20:33:30 | Juliet: I know when I returned they gave me an agreed upon lump sum for all my previous art
  20:33:45 | crazy~lil~noodle: right the old Art
  20:33:45 | crazy~lil~noodle: we made
  20:34:01 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yep
  20:34:01 | Shadowess: yeah i never did any of that
  20:34:11 | Juliet: well maybe now is your time
  20:34:11 | Juliet: hehe
  20:34:21 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yep chat with Polly
  20:34:36 | Mikey: yeah they are using several of her pieces
  20:34:47 | Mikey: which we dont mind
  20:35:02 | Shadowess: kk i will shoot her a message about it, just wasnt sure what the deal with how it worked now was
  20:35:17 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Polly will know the ownership. Like if it was free/token/donated art it could still be used. If it was still graded AW then we shouldn’t but Polly will know.
  20:36:03 | Shadowess: k fab ty ty
  20:36:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Keep in touch with me via the art forum and direct messages on the website. I’m happy to work 1 – 1 with each artist on anything they need/want etc
  20:36:54 | crazy~lil~noodle: whats with the Art from the last month ? I made a lot and I dont know should I send an invoice or what are the others doing? How many are sold ?
  20:37:10 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok that answer my question too
  20:38:11 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: If the arts been accepted/processed IW then Polly/Pye should have told you to send the invoice.
  20:38:27 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok hm
  20:38:47 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: As soon as it’s been approved and processed it’s time to invoice.
  20:39:02 | crazy~lil~noodle: there is stuff from summer until christmas
  20:39:07 | ~*MrsM*~: hmm and who decides what its worth?
  20:39:13 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:39:38 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: We have fixed rates depending on the time of item being submitted. Has Pye/Polly never sent this to you?
  20:39:48 | ~*MrsM*~: no
  20:39:53 | crazy~lil~noodle: I got one so far
  20:39:53 | Juliet: what?
  20:40:14 | Juliet: time of it being submitted?
  20:40:24 | crazy~lil~noodle: one list for one item/one set of items
  20:40:24 | crazy~lil~noodle: only
  20:40:34 | crazy~lil~noodle: month ago
  20:40:34 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Okay. I will get the rate card sent to all of you this week.
  20:40:45 | Juliet: ah ok, nice
  20:40:45 | Shadowess: ok that would be great
  20:40:50 | ~*MrsM*~: thank you
  20:41:05 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok and I got a list from christmas stuff but since christmas wasnt over the final list of how many were sold wasnt ready
  20:41:10 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok Andy
  20:41:10 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Juliet to confirm you can request payment as soon as the art has been processed and all fine with it.
  20:41:41 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: You don’t need to wait/know how many sold really. You just need to complete the art and get confirmation it’s done then you can invoice.
  20:41:41 | Juliet: oh, ok, I thought you were saying something else
  20:41:56 | Juliet: gotcha
  20:41:56 | Juliet: k
  20:41:56 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: No need to wait until it’s actually IW and available.
  20:42:01 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok lol how much is the question <react>
  20:42:07 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: thats our beef
  20:42:22 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: I will get the rate card sent to you all so it’s clear
  20:42:27 | crazy~lil~noodle: k good ty
  20:42:27 | Mikey: its a flat rate for time
  20:42:42 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: it’s per item Mikey
  20:42:48 | Mikey: ok
  20:43:13 | Juliet: I have a question about event art
  20:43:18 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: k
  20:43:29 | ~*MrsM*~: well I have only sent my dog in for now because I gave him away but not the rest because I didn’t understoofd how it would work..
  20:43:54 | Juliet: I wanted to do a Fairy, Evles and Sprites event
  20:44:04 | crazy~lil~noodle: ooooooooh
  20:44:15 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: I will make it clear for all ~*MrsM*~
  20:44:15 | Juliet: but Polly said it has to be event type, only one sided
  20:44:45 | Juliet: but I wanted to make a fairy dress, boat that would be a seat and hair acessories
  20:45:01 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: only one sided event type?
  20:45:01 | ~*MrsM*~: ty and I want an assurance please that no-one will change the art that I am gonna send in..
  20:45:06 | crazy~lil~noodle: hm
  20:45:11 | Juliet: maybe even a very fae like head but that doesn’t go into event type art
  20:45:21 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: ~*MrsM*~ we don’t no
  20:45:21 | crazy~lil~noodle: ty MrsM , same here
  20:45:26 | crazy~lil~noodle: k
  20:45:42 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: That was the point. I want you guys to do it and earn from doing it
  20:46:02 | ~*MrsM*~: ty, because thats why I left before..
  20:46:12 | Juliet: same here…
  20:46:18 | Juliet: think we all feel that way
  20:46:28 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:46:28 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yes
  20:46:38 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Juliet not sure on the question/problem sorry
  20:46:48 | Juliet: hmm
  20:47:09 | Juliet: I wanted to make all that for the event…not one sided stuff
  20:47:09 | ~*MrsM*~: I am now using a lil thing that noodle made but she gave me permission for it..
  20:47:14 | Juliet: that is what I meant
  20:47:45 | crazy~lil~noodle: you mean you wanna make that stuff for your event?
  20:47:50 | Juliet: yes
  20:47:50 | crazy~lil~noodle: and it isnt working
  20:47:50 | Juliet: wanted to
  20:47:50 | crazy~lil~noodle: k
  20:48:00 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: okay and Polly said no?
  20:48:05 | Juliet: it has to be only one sided, clothing and the sort is not one sided
  20:48:05 | ~*MrsM*~: can we make stuff that we use first for an event we wanna do ourselves or together with others.
  20:48:31 | crazy~lil~noodle: oh you mean the view?
  20:48:41 | Juliet: hmm, I will take it up with her, see if she will decide differently
  20:48:51 | Juliet: yes
  20:48:51 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yeah i’m lost. Why would we want stuff that only works from one view?
  20:48:56 | Juliet: those all would have several veiws
  20:49:07 | crazy~lil~noodle: only one side view ? for clothing? why
  20:49:32 | Juliet: she didn’t know what I wanted to make
  20:49:32 | crazy~lil~noodle: more view is AW? and not Prizes? maybe
  20:49:37 | crazy~lil~noodle: or not token stuff
  20:49:37 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Not sure
  20:49:37 | Juliet: but that is the stuff I want to make for it
  20:49:53 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: The only thing I know is that event only art is tricky and usually classed as free art
  20:50:03 | Mikey: I would suggest making it
  20:50:13 | Mikey: then request it as prizes
  20:50:18 | crazy~lil~noodle: thats what I got as an answer when we wanted to use something I made new
  20:50:18 | Juliet: but wouldn’t it be up to me if I wanted to donate for free during the event?
  20:50:34 | crazy~lil~noodle: first it has to be an item IW for everybody then we can use it as prize
  20:50:49 | crazy~lil~noodle: right juliet
  20:50:59 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Art we pay for has to go through a flow of gold > vip > prize > token
  20:51:10 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok
  20:51:10 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: unless we have agreed in advance it’s going to be for something specific
  20:51:45 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: I think this is probably what Polly was guarding against being prize only art for a one off event in past years would be free/donated art.
  20:52:16 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Unless it’s something we requested for an event/prize/decor etc
  20:52:21 | Juliet: ah ok
  20:52:37 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: We have a cost to process the art also
  20:52:42 | Juliet: sometimes I just want art inworld for the sake of being inworld
  20:52:47 | crazy~lil~noodle: ah ok Andy could you request Elf/Fairy/Sprite event prizes pls? <g>
  20:53:02 | crazy~lil~noodle: <react>
  20:53:07 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: lol
  20:53:12 | ~*MrsM*~: and thats what sucks I loved to make new stuff for festival but that was staff event.. and would like a bit more freedom for things that I make for free
  20:53:18 | crazy~lil~noodle: well it was a try
  20:53:23 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: We can’t expect every event to free art so we have to have some wiggle room on it
  20:53:28 | Juliet: yeah, too bad we can’t process too if we want to
  20:53:43 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: I agree if it’s free art you can do what the heck you want
  20:53:48 | crazy~lil~noodle: but it was a try to ask <react>
  20:53:53 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: but we do have a cost to process the art and get it IW
  20:54:04 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  20:54:09 | crazy~lil~noodle: I have one more question
  20:54:24 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: So we can’t accept 200 sticks of grass as it would cost $$$$$ to get it IW
  20:54:40 | crazy~lil~noodle: AW or Token Items we made , I can send an invoice for it? or only for AW
  20:54:45 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Which is why we ask to post ideas before you make art in the forum
  20:55:28 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: crazy~lil~noodle i will make clear on the prices but ANY art we purchase has to follow gold > vip > prize > token
  20:55:38 | Juliet: So if we don’t get comments on it, does that mean it’s not wanted?
  20:55:38 | crazy~lil~noodle: ah ok
  20:55:59 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: unless we have requested it for specific type like a token only item then we would pay.
  20:56:04 | Juliet: I made two dresses that I was going to release for christmas but they are low cut and short…figured better for valentines
  20:56:09 | Juliet: never got a reply on them
  20:56:09 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: If you decide to make a token item for free then it comes in as a free token item we don’t pay for
  20:56:14 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok
  20:56:29 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Juliet is that on the forum?
  20:56:29 | Juliet: yes
  20:56:34 | ~*MrsM*~: well could always make an event item and an free aw version that you can profit off to cover the process fees of both
  20:56:40 | Juliet: I only spoke to it, no one else
  20:57:15 | Juliet: right, that makes sense MrsM
  20:57:15 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Can you send me the link to the post? I thought everything was replied to
  20:57:31 | Juliet: I will, sure
  20:57:31 | crazy~lil~noodle: when I send in an Item and the decision is that it will be a token item I get nothing for it
  20:57:31 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok
  20:57:36 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: ~*MrsM*~ yeah of course
  20:58:12 | ~*MrsM*~: okay thank you that gives more possibilities
  20:58:22 | Shadowess: is there a new and updated image catalog available? so we can see whats all in there, get the image code and work away on stuff or tweaks or even see what others have put out so we cant making something similar to their work
  20:58:27 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: The ideal situation is that we have members creating, hosting events and making art for the event
  20:59:23 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Shadowess nope. This is something I can’t decide on. The ideal situation is that all art is available to view via the website or IW but it’s a massive security headache of someone just copying it all.
  20:59:44 | ~*MrsM*~: okay that can work
  20:59:59 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: watermark version is the only solution I have to this right now but it just looks awful
  21:00:04 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: so it’s on pause.
  21:00:30 | Mikey: ok i need to go host sorry
  21:00:35 | Mikey: huggggggggz all
  21:00:35 | Juliet: I actually don’t know how to send you a message on your website, Andy.
  21:00:40 | crazy~lil~noodle: huggs
  21:00:46 | Shadowess: hugggz
  21:01:32 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Juliet i will send you one so you can get notification and reply
  21:01:32 | crazy~lil~noodle: on vzones.com Juliet?
  21:01:47 | Juliet: yes, I never send messages, I only write in the forum
  21:01:59 | crazy~lil~noodle: what he said <react>
  21:02:04 | crazy~lil~noodle: its easier
  21:02:15 | Juliet: TY
  21:02:15 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Sent now
  21:02:40 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Okay guys we can chat again next month and i will do it at the weekend so Pink can come and hopefully pye/polly
  21:02:45 | crazy~lil~noodle: ok cool
  21:02:51 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: If you need anything before then please message me direct on the site or use the art forum
  21:03:01 | crazy~lil~noodle: maybe the same time? would be good for us Euros
  21:03:11 | crazy~lil~noodle: ty Andy that was very informativ today
  21:03:18 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yeah should be okay this time at the weekend for the others
  21:03:28 | Shadowess: saturdays prefered here lol because we work long hrs on sunday
  21:03:34 | crazy~lil~noodle: yes
  21:03:39 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: got it
  21:03:44 | Shadowess: ty ty for the meeting, good to touch bases
  21:03:44 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: thanks for coming guys and your time
  21:03:49 | Juliet: I will try, as long as not at a softball game with the grandkids
  21:03:59 | crazy~lil~noodle: ty and that was my idea to do a meeting
  21:03:59 | Juliet: TY for your time too Andy
  21:03:59 | ~*MrsM*~: okay ty<grin>
  21:04:10 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yeah noodle takes credit for this
  21:04:15 | crazy~lil~noodle: no no
  21:04:20 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: I just turned up
  21:04:25 | Juliet: hehe, TY Noodle
  21:04:25 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: It’s great idea
  21:04:40 | Shadowess: think its a fab idea noods, helps get questions answers and keep us all in the loop
  21:04:45 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Emm was taking notes i think
  21:04:45 | crazy~lil~noodle: I like to be in the background
  21:04:45 | ~*MrsM*~: yup
  21:04:45 | crazy~lil~noodle: lol
  21:05:01 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: noodle we get you up on stage next time
  21:05:06 | crazy~lil~noodle: is it going to the Art group?
  21:05:06 | crazy~lil~noodle: Emm
  21:05:11 | crazy~lil~noodle: lmao NOT
  21:05:16 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: you can stand on the top
  21:05:16 | Emm: this log?
  21:05:27 | Emm: dont think i got access to art
  21:05:32 | ~*MrsM*~: well now I know what to do if I want an event with new art lol make free AW to go with it
  21:05:37 | crazy~lil~noodle: I was an It teacher for adults for a long time <react> I have enough
  21:05:42 | crazy~lil~noodle: lol
  21:05:47 | Emm: but since it is public meeting, it shoud go in reguklar forum
  21:05:52 | ~*MrsM*~: maybe we can combine it with a matching gold vendo
  21:05:58 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: yeah that’s fine
  21:06:03 | crazy~lil~noodle: really?
  21:06:33 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: okay guys
  21:06:33 | crazy~lil~noodle: huggs and ty
  21:06:39 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: Message me if you need anything
  21:06:39 | Acolyte Cosmic Andy: hugsssssssss
  21:06:39 | Juliet: huggs
  21:06:39 | crazy~lil~noodle: k
  21:06:39 | Shadowess: hugggz ty ty
  21:06:44 | ~*MrsM*~: huggs
  21:06:44 | crazy~lil~noodle: <wave><grin>