CosmicAndy
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New art brings us back to the original issue we tried to solve with the host market a few months ago. You raised a strong point: a few months ago, we had a host who ran just one hour a month but still took full advantage of everything in the host market. Meanwhile, another host putting in one hour a day was essentially receiving the same benefit. On the other end of the spectrum, we have hosts contributing 30+ hours a month who didn’t want any rewards at all and give it away.
What we’re really doing here is looking for a fix to cover up the deeper issue with the broken voucher system we tried to address a few months ago. In reality, this doesn’t solve the underlying problem with the host reward system, it just patches over it. That said, it may be the easier path for now, since a smaller group of members prefer the current oversupply situation in the short term, even though it undermines the longer-term value and stability of vouchers as a meaningful currency/reward/prize system.
One idea we discussed was splitting the host market into tiers (or “rooms”), with access depending on how many games a host ran each month. That would prevent oversupply, since vouchers have been devalued to the point they’re no longer meaningful for hosts.
Another idea was a ticket system: for example, one Host Reward Ticket for every 10 games hosted. A ticket could be exchanged for a custom-made or painted item. This approach gives hosts flexibility to get exactly what they want, while ensuring tickets themselves can’t be traded, sold, or undervalued. Any item created for the host could still be sold or traded later, which keeps the system fair and valuable.
We can discuss further at the September meeting.
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Morning,
Can’t seem to find it via spam/inbox. Could you put on a ticket https://www.vzones.com/submit-ticket/ or try sending again?
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@Tabitha When you mention many hosts leaving, I assume you’re referring to Luna and L’AD? I’m not aware of other hosts who’ve stepped away specifically because of dissatisfaction with rewards.
I’m a little puzzled by your post, since the voucher prizes in the Host Mart went back to the original rates months ago. Are you still seeing something different on your end with the value of the items?
As for compensation, I don’t think anyone here has suggested that rewarding hosts is “awful”, I can’t recall any host directly asking for compensation. Most people host because of their passion and enjoyment of VZones, it’s part of the fun, not something we want to turn into an automated process with a bot.
That said, I do appreciate your feedback about the box of vouchers not being as appealing as prize sets. I’ve added this to the agenda for the next town meeting so we can discuss offering prize sets for hosts.
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I thought I had replied to this last month when you asked, but just to confirm—every game hosted, including event games, is included in the monthly sending.
We don’t set any restrictions on this, but for event games the host can decide whether to give out only event prizes, or both event prizes and vouchers. Regardless of that choice, the host reward box is always included and sent as normal.
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You host 1 game every day for 7 days (2 of those days are event days).
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The bot would send you 7 voucher boxes for the month (one per game hosted).
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In addition, you would receive 2 event prize boxes for the event days.
This means you technically end up with 2 prize boxes that don’t necessarily need to be given out. You can either keep them as your own reward or choose to give them out—it’s up to you. Either way, you still receive the host voucher.
I hope this makes things clearer. We could also look into providing each host with one dedicated box of prizes to keep. Let’s discuss this idea in the next meeting and add it to the list if there’s interest.
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Thanks @Emm
I’ve replied to @cooper
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Totally understand, but the underlying principles are the same whether we’re talking about a virtual economy or the real world. As I mentioned when this was last discussed, if a currency has no value, then it provides no motivation or incentive.
If everything is free, included, or available in unlimited supply, the system quickly loses its purpose. It’s similar to playing a video game with 20 levels, but being allowed to skip straight to the final reward at any time. The challenge and progression disappear, and with them, the motivation to keep playing.
While not every member is driven purely by rewards, the majority are, and if there’s no sense of scarcity, achievement, or progression, boredom sets in fast.
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@XieToo Emm has replied with what I was going to say. Hosts have a choice to keep the vouchers or hand them out but this compensates you with the additional full box.
I’ve added a note for the next meeting to discuss hosts getting a prize box during events.
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